Showing posts with label TIAA. Show all posts
Showing posts with label TIAA. Show all posts

Friday, September 06, 2019

That TIAA Loan Lawsuit & My Opinion

TIAA is being sued for a loan scheme that benefits TIAA, not participants and my opinion is that TIAA is in the wrong. This doesn't mean they broke the law, but they lose the moral and ethical credibility they had accumulated by using a technique that the rest of the 403(b) industry uses, but most 401(k) plans did away with long ago.

Here is a link to the lawsuit.

According to Plansponsor:

"A new lawsuit argues the practices used by the Teachers Investment and Annuity Association (TIAA) to credit portions of interest payments made by participants on loans taken from their own retirement accounts back to the firm—rather than to the borrowing participant—violate the Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA)."

I have first hand experience with this particular loan scheme. A client of mine was also taken advantage of by it several years back, though I did not learn of it until recently.


The Basics 

In most 401(k) plans when a loan is taken, the money for the loan comes directly from the balance of the participant who is taking the loan. In effect, they are borrowing the money from themselves. They pay interest, but that interest is paid back to their 401(k) account (it's this interest that is double taxed when withdrawn, not the entire loan payment, as is commonly misreported), so they are paying interest to themselves. The interest rate doesn't really matter because it's all going back to the participant anyway.

TIAA's loan process works differently (or at least it did, they've made changes to some, but apparently not all plans). When a participant took a loan from my client's 403(b) program they were not taking a loan from themselves, instead they were taking a loan from TIAA (technically TIAA's General Account). TIAA would secure this loan by liquidating assets in the 403(b) and placing them into an escrow account that is invested in an interest bearing annuity (the TIAA Traditional normally). The amount of the escrow would be 110% of the loan amount and as the loan is paid back, the money in the escrow account is released back to the participant's account to be invested (though my experience is the money is deposited to the CREF Money Market account where it earned very little interest). While the mechanics might look the same, there is a subtle difference.

TIAA Gets A Cut Of Your Loan Repayments 

The TIAA loan process is designed so that they earn a portion of the interest that you pay. TIAA loans you the money and might charge a rate of say 4.50% (the lawsuits cites several different rates from 4.17 - 4.42%) while placing your own money in an interest bearing account that might be paying 3%. The participant's net interest rate is then the difference between what is being paid in interest (3%) and what is being charged (4.50% for example) or 1.50%. In the lawsuit, TIAA was getting a spread above 1% for risk-free loans (remember, the participant over-collateralized the loan, so there is no possibility of default). In a normal 401(k) loan you might pay a higher interest rate, but at least you are paying that interest back to yourself, the net spread is 0%, but with TIAA it might 1% or more. This is in my opinion no different than stealing.

I was unaware that TIAA was doing this until TIAA failed to win a bid for a client of mine and had to transition the assets to a new provider, TIAA refused to move the loans due to the collateralized loan issue.

TIAA will likely fight this and claim it's a standard industry practice, this is no defense in my opinion and schemes like this should be illegal. There is no reason a recordkeeper should be earning money on plan loans other than the cost to actually process and monitor the loan (normally participants pay a loan origination fee).

I've looked up to TIAA over the years as one of the good companies in the industry and I still support the company in many ways. But this is one issue (there are more that I won't get into, but...Nuveen acquisition) where I stand against TIAA and call for them to do the right thing.

If you have TIAA as a recordkeeper you need to inquire as to how they handle loans and begin the process to change to the normal 401(k) style loans immediately.

Scott Dauenhauer, CFP, MPAS, AIF

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NY Times: The Finger-Pointing at the Finance Firm TIAA

This article is disturbing. More to come. The Finger-Pointing at the Finance Firm TIAA

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Wednesday, August 10, 2016

Non-Profit Universites Sued Over 403(b) Programs

Image: Ray Bartkus
I was a bit surprised to see this lawsuit as I'd pretty much kill to have the providers listed in the programs being sued (Fidelity and TIAA - who are not defendants).

I'm not getting a warm and fuzzy with this lawsuit, though it may prompt system wide change, I fear that the schools will pay out a lot of money for operating programs that were, relatively speaking, pretty good.

If you think these programs are bad, you ain't seen nothing until you've dug into the world of public K-12 403(b) programs. As I dig into the lawsuits, I'll have more commentary.

Here is a short excerpt and link to the New York Times article by Tara Siegel Bernard:

Friday, April 01, 2016

Feeling The 403(b) Fee Bern: High Fees Strike Sanders Wife

Money magazine called me about a month ago to ask if I would go through federal disclosures for Bernie Sanders and help them write a story about the structure of the Sander's family money. I literally dropped everything, spent the next three hours examining the disclosure and briefed the reporter the following day. The resulting article is Bernie Sanders Is A De Facto Millionaire.

While I think the title is a little misleading, it's actually not the most interesting thing about the Sander's finances.

What I found surprised me.

Tuesday, February 23, 2016

TIAA-CREF Becomes TIAA, But Not "tee-ah"

TIAA-CREF, a company that everyone I know refer to as TIAA (or tee-ah) has now become TIAA.

But don't call them TIAA (tee-ah), no, that is a bridge to far, they are T.I.A.A. (tee-eye-ay-ay).

Note: "ay" is simply a long "a".

While there are no periods between the letters, you are not supposed to pronounce TIAA as a word, instead you are still supposed to say each letter, so much for simplification.

The CEO, Roger Ferguson says they are "shortening the name, modernizing it and making it more contemporary," but are they? Yesterday it was "tee-eye-ay-ay CREF" and today it's "tee-eye-ay-ay" with the CREF dropped. I have no idea why you have to say each letter, T...I...A....A, but then you can get away with saying CREF (pronounced...cref) without having to say those letters. Well at least you won't have to say "CREF" anymore (though CREF is not disappearing).

Yes, "tee-eye-ay-ay" is shorter than "tee-eye-ay-ay-CREF", but why not just TIAA (tee-ah), wouldn't that in reality be "shortening, modernizing...and..more contemporary"?